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Old January 18th 09, 04:45 PM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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"." wrote in message
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Ted Kascinki was declaring war on the whole technological
establishment, but Tim McVeigh was a patriot, fighting the out-of-
control government.

Tim showed great courage as he stared at the video camera and died for
what he believed in.


Just when we thought it would be impossible, Krusty reaches
a new low. Good Gawd...

Bob M.




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Old January 18th 09, 09:10 PM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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"." wrote in message
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On Jan 18, 8:45 am, "Bob Myers" wrote:
"." wrote in message
Tim showed great courage as he stared at the video camera and died for
what he believed in.


Just when we thought it would be impossible, Krusty reaches
a new low. Good Gawd...


Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 June 11, 2001) was a United
States Army veteran and security guard who bombed the Alfred P. Murrah
Building in Oklahoma City on the second anniversary of the Waco Siege,
April 19, 1995, as revenge against what he considered to be a
tyrannical federal government.(1)(2)(3)(4)


And as a result of that cowardly act, 168 innocent men, women, and
children died. If you think that the actions of this nutjob were in even
the slightest bit admirable, then you're scum. Plain and simple.

Bob M.


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Old January 18th 09, 09:29 PM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 June 11, 2001) was a United
States Army veteran and security guard who bombed the Alfred P. Murrah
Building in Oklahoma City on the second anniversary of the Waco Siege,
April 19, 1995, as revenge against what he considered to be a
tyrannical federal government.(1)(2)(3)(4)


Even if it was actually a tyrannical federal government I am still
unable to see the point in killing a few dozens bureaucrats at the end
of the food chain, not including the children in the nursery, of course.

What did he think, that all the other people in the USA would have
finally seen the light after bringing down the Oklahoma building ?

Sheesh !

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Old January 18th 09, 10:11 PM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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.. wrote:

He exhibited intelligence and the professional soldier behavior that
he learned in the US Army until the end of his life, and that causes
me to *respect* him.


I'm sure it did.

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Old January 18th 09, 10:21 PM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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"." wrote in message
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On Jan 18, 1:10 pm, "Bob Myers" wrote:

And as a result of that cowardly act, 168 innocent men, women, and
children died. If you think that the actions of this nutjob were in even
the slightest bit admirable, then you're scum. Plain and simple.


McVeigh would not have planned to bomb the Murrah building if he had
known it was going to be occupied. He would have proceeded with his
plans to assassinate
government officials and the Ruby Ridge sniper.

While McVeigh did kill people, he believed that it was a *necessity*
for the
White resistance to fight the tyrannical US government and tried to
get his attorneys to present that defense.

He exhibited intelligence and the professional soldier behavior that
he learned in the US Army until the end of his life, and that causes
me to *respect* him.

McVeigh wasn't charged with the murder of the collateral victims,
after being convicted of federal charges of murdering federal
officers.





McVeigh is nothing more nor less than a terrorist.

There's nothing different about him from a Hamas suicide bomber who walks
into a pizza parlor and blows the place up.

He has no honor.

He is the **** of humanity.


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Old January 18th 09, 11:20 PM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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I remember the anger that a lot of Americans had towards the
government after the Ruby Ridge incident and the Waco siege. There
were certainly a lot of militia type groups that would have liked to
see "The Turner Diaries" acted out in real life.


Oh, yes, I remember that McVeigh read the book. Still, I can't see the
logic
of replacing the tyrannical feds with an even more tyrannical uebernazi
type of government bent on nuclear holocaust...

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Old January 19th 09, 03:33 AM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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"." wrote in message
...
On Jan 18, 1:10 pm, "Bob Myers" wrote:

And as a result of that cowardly act, 168 innocent men, women, and
children died. If you think that the actions of this nutjob were in even
the slightest bit admirable, then you're scum. Plain and simple.


McVeigh would not have planned to bomb the Murrah building if he had
known it was going to be occupied. He would have proceeded with his
plans to assassinate government officials and the Ruby Ridge sniper.


Bull. McVeigh could never be certain the building was unoccupied,
and at the time of the bombing could, in fact, be virtually certain that
it WOULD be occupied, with the occupants including a number of
children. He didn't "proceed with his plans to assassinate government
officials" (which would itself have been despicable enough) because he
was a coward. It's that simple.

While McVeigh did kill people, he believed that it was a *necessity*
for the White resistance to fight the tyrannical US government and tried
to
get his attorneys to present that defense.


Most, if not all, killers justify their cowardly acts in their own minds.
That hardly makes them right, and certainly does not make them either
admirable or respectable.


He exhibited intelligence and the professional soldier behavior that
he learned in the US Army until the end of his life, and that causes
me to *respect* him.


Then you have, not surprisingly, extraordinary low standards regarding
who you respect. But then, we already knew that.

And intelligent, professional soldiers do not knowingly even RISK
that number of innocent civilian lives. McVeigh was scum. End of
story. Tell you what - you go find a REAL professional soldier
(I realize that you'll have to go quite a way out of your normal
circle of acquiantances to do that) and ask him or her if THEY think
that McVeigh exhibited ANY traits that they would take pride in.
Be prepare, of course, for said soldier to throw at least one good
punch in your direction, unless they can themselves show a truly
extraordinary level of professionalism and restraint. Frankly, I
wouldn't blame them one bit if they left you in a bloody heap for
even suggesting that McVeigh was anything REMOTELY akin to
a "professional soldier" re these actions.

McVeigh wasn't charged with the murder of the collateral victims,
after being convicted of federal charges of murdering federal
officers.


Of course not. Those charges would have been made by the
State of Oklahoma, not the federal government, and unfortunately
you can only kill these scumbags once for their crimes.

Bob M.


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Old January 19th 09, 04:01 AM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:33:46 -0700, "Bob Myers"
wrote:


"." wrote in message
...
On Jan 18, 1:10 pm, "Bob Myers" wrote:

And as a result of that cowardly act, 168 innocent men, women, and
children died. If you think that the actions of this nutjob were in even
the slightest bit admirable, then you're scum. Plain and simple.


McVeigh would not have planned to bomb the Murrah building if he had
known it was going to be occupied. He would have proceeded with his
plans to assassinate government officials and the Ruby Ridge sniper.


Bull**** # 2 -

"On April 19, 1995 ( a Wednesday ) McVeigh drove the truck to the
front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building just as its offices and
day care center opened for the day."

"At 9:02 a.m., a massive explosion destroyed the north half of the
building"

He exhibited intelligence and the professional soldier behavior that
he learned in the US Army until the end of his life, and that causes
me to *respect* him.


Yah, right - blow up a building full of civilians and kids in
a sneak attack, then run away and hide.


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Old January 19th 09, 04:17 AM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:33:46 -0700, "Bob Myers"
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Please watch your attributions. I didn't write any of what you
responded to here. That was Krusty, and I absolutely do NOT
want there to be even the slightest possibility that someone
would think I wrote any of his BS.

Bob M.


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Old January 19th 09, 04:19 AM posted to soc.veterans,rec.arts.tv,alt.california,misc.fitness.weights,rec.motorcycles
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:17:00 -0700, "Bob Myers"
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wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:33:46 -0700, "Bob Myers"
wrote:


Please watch your attributions. I didn't write any of what you
responded to here. That was Krusty, and I absolutely do NOT
want there to be even the slightest possibility that someone
would think I wrote any of his BS.


I know - I thought it was clear from the levels of quotes.
Obviously, I was agreeing with you. Sorry.


Bob M.


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