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Old October 5th 10, 06:18 PM posted to misc.fitness.weights
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-10-years.html

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Old October 5th 10, 07:48 PM posted to misc.fitness.weights
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"Ted" wrote in message
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-10-years.html


Poorly written article, vague.

If they're talking about a specific peptide, unlikely, but possible.
If they're talking about just effing more protein, if that were the case,
Merkins would be living to age 150 right now.

There is a growing school of thought that too much protein is in fact
responsible for Wester lifestyle diseases, cancer, an shortened lifespan.
Too much = McD diet.
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Old October 5th 10, 08:16 PM posted to misc.fitness.weights
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"Existential Angst" wrote in message
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"Ted" wrote in message
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-10-years.html


Poorly written article, vague.

If they're talking about a specific peptide, unlikely, but possible.
If they're talking about just effing more protein, if that were the case,
Merkins would be living to age 150 right now.

There is a growing school of thought that too much protein is in fact
responsible for Wester lifestyle diseases, cancer, an shortened lifespan.
Too much = McD diet.
--
EA


A little more detail here.

http://www.physorg.com/news205501741.html

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Old October 7th 10, 08:12 PM posted to misc.fitness.weights
Ted[_10_]
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"Ted" wrote in message
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"Existential Angst" wrote in message
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"Ted" wrote in message
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-10-years.html


Poorly written article, vague.

If they're talking about a specific peptide, unlikely, but possible.
If they're talking about just effing more protein, if that were the case,
Merkins would be living to age 150 right now.

There is a growing school of thought that too much protein is in fact
responsible for Wester lifestyle diseases, cancer, an shortened lifespan.
Too much = McD diet.
--
EA


A little more detail here.

http://www.physorg.com/news205501741.html


A more sceptical slant on it here.

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/sh...ef=online-news

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Old October 7th 10, 09:27 PM posted to misc.fitness.weights
Jason Earl[_2_]
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Default Life extending protein powder?

On Thu, Oct 07 2010, Ted wrote:

"Ted" wrote in message
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"Existential Angst" wrote in message
...
"Ted" wrote in message
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-10-years.html

Poorly written article, vague.

If they're talking about a specific peptide, unlikely, but possible.
If they're talking about just effing more protein, if that were the
case, Merkins would be living to age 150 right now.

There is a growing school of thought that too much protein is in
fact responsible for Wester lifestyle diseases, cancer, an
shortened lifespan. Too much = McD diet.
--
EA


A little more detail here.

http://www.physorg.com/news205501741.html


A more sceptical slant on it here.

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/sh...ef=online-news


I think that everyone (well, everyone not at the DailyMail) is skeptical
that BCAAs will increase human life spans by 12%. We already know that
BCAAs are good for you (and the article points that out). You'd be
crazy to take a study done on a population of 60 mice and project that
onto the general human population.

This did not stop someone at the DailyMail from doing precisely that.

Not surprisingly, bodybuilders are already using this stuff. Which is
good, as a population they tend to have pretty poor life expectancy.
They need all the help they can get.

Jason
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Old October 7th 10, 10:45 PM posted to misc.fitness.weights
Ted[_10_]
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Not surprisingly, bodybuilders are already using this stuff. Which is
good, as a population they tend to have pretty poor life expectancy.
They need all the help they can get.

Jason


Does the poor life expectancy apply to body builders specifically or anyone
who weight trains fairly intensively.? Could it be the dietary extremes
sometimes used by competing body builders that accounts for poor life
expectancy?

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Old October 7th 10, 11:39 PM posted to misc.fitness.weights
Jim Janney[_2_]
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Default Life extending protein powder?

"Ted" writes:


Not surprisingly, bodybuilders are already using this stuff. Which is
good, as a population they tend to have pretty poor life expectancy.
They need all the help they can get.

Jason


Does the poor life expectancy apply to body builders specifically or
anyone who weight trains fairly intensively.? Could it be the dietary
extremes sometimes used by competing body builders that accounts for
poor life expectancy?


Possibly a number of things, but probably mostly this:

http://danjohn.net/2009/11/an-old-ar...h-of-a-friend/

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Old October 8th 10, 01:13 AM posted to misc.fitness.weights
Existential Angst[_2_]
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"Ted" wrote in message
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Not surprisingly, bodybuilders are already using this stuff. Which is
good, as a population they tend to have pretty poor life expectancy.
They need all the help they can get.

Jason


Does the poor life expectancy apply to body builders specifically or
anyone who weight trains fairly intensively.? Could it be the dietary
extremes sometimes used by competing body builders that accounts for poor
life expectancy?


Absolutely. Many can't even make to the posing podium. Never mind the
'roids.

Also, meat IS BCAA, by definition. So meat eaters supplementing with
BCAA's is like, well, eating more meat.

In rat studies, the increased lifespan could simply be an improvement over
their net amino acid profile of eaa's, since I don't think lab rats are
normally fed meat. Meat may be good for rats!
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Old October 8th 10, 07:17 AM posted to misc.fitness.weights
Jason Earl[_2_]
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Default Life extending protein powder?

On Thu, Oct 07 2010, Ted wrote:


Not surprisingly, bodybuilders are already using this stuff. Which
is good, as a population they tend to have pretty poor life
expectancy. They need all the help they can get.

Jason


Does the poor life expectancy apply to body builders specifically or
anyone who weight trains fairly intensively.? Could it be the dietary
extremes sometimes used by competing body builders that accounts for
poor life expectancy?


I don't know that we have data on weight training specifically. At
least I have not been able to find it. I personally would not have any
trouble believing that being larger than average is somewhat detrimental
to longevity, even if you are lean and fit.

I have read a study that showed that cardiovascular fitness (measured by
a Bruce protocol stress test) was more important than weight or waist
circumference in determining longevity. So it might not be as bleak as
all that for large people that happen to be fit.

For the most part, bodybuilders are simply not very concerned about
their health,, especially at the professional level. It's not just the
steroid (and other hormone) abuse either.

Jason
 




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