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  #21  
Old February 21st 04, 12:35 PM
Duncan Heenan
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"scs0" wrote in message
om...
I am not a US citizen, but I agree that you badly need a new President.
We in the UK also badly need a new Prime Minister, who will stop

following
bad Presidents in to bad wars!


As a US citizen I couldn't care less what you think about our
President. Until europeans abandon their love of socialism and start
dismantling their fascist government programs I'll never take
narrow-minded opinions like yours seriously.


So we're all socialist and fascist at the same time?
Ever been here?
So this opinion isn't narrow minded?
Is it any wonder 'Americans' are viewed so badly from abroad?!


  #22  
Old February 21st 04, 05:32 PM
Pat
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As a US citizen I couldn't care less what you think about our
President. Until europeans abandon their love of socialism and start
dismantling their fascist government programs I'll never take
narrow-minded opinions like yours seriously.


So we're all socialist and fascist at the same time?
Ever been here?
So this opinion isn't narrow minded?
Is it any wonder 'Americans' are viewed so badly from abroad?!


Just don't judge all Americans by what one single person posts. Or else we
will be able to say,
"Is it any wonder Europeans are viewed so badly from abroad."

Pat in TX


  #23  
Old February 22nd 04, 04:28 AM
Michael Sollner
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"curt" wrote in message
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Sorry to tell you, but it's rather likely that Bush will be

constitutionally
elected for the 2nd time. Might even get the majority this time.
--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com


Well considering he really didn't win the first time if it wasn't for his
brother's help, you are probably right. I mean that family has much too
much power and money for us commoners to think we could vote him out even

if
we wanted to. He has the NASCAR people eating out of his hand and all
military and oil people will be voting for him. The Bush family is a very
very powerful family and I suspect they can not be voted out no matter

what
the popular vote will be. Just think how much money Chaney will be making
now that they have control of all that oil. I would imagine Bush will get
some nice kick-backs as well. Who cares the whole world now hates us and

we
are in a financial ruin due to the mass spending on a useless so-called

war?
As long as we can drive an H2 and work like dogs and keep up with the

debt
we are happy. The US is in the worst shape in my lifetime. You think we
are hated around the world now... wait until he is voted back in for

another
term. That will confirm to the world that we are the arrogant aggressors
that people already think we are. He will be in another term IMHO. I

won't
vote for him, but people that don't understand global thinking will and if
it is close they have the connections to do what they want. If you don't
think that is true, take a look at the Florida votes from the past and the
last election. Lots of vote thrown away. I just don't think people want

to
believe that can happen here, but 30 years from now someone will be on

20/20
saying..yeah, I was ordered to dump ballots and I followed my orders. It
will come out someday.

Enjoy,
Curt



Bush will get my vote, and yes I travel internationally and yes I understand
the current world view. About 90% of what you posted above is pure
conspiracy BS. Bush won the 2000 election quite fairly and with the help of
Ralph Nader. If you can't see that, take the blinders off.

Now that I have posted political opinion on a non-political group in a
thread that is not labeled "OT," I will again ask Martin to not continually
try to stir up political passion in a swimming group. Swimming is a sport
that I love and I saw politics cost many of my friends the opportunity to
participate in the 1980 Olympics and cost many athletes from many countries
the opportunity to participate in both the 1980 and 1984 Olympics. Politics
will unfortunately always find it's way into sports, but I wish we could
keep it out of this group.


  #24  
Old February 22nd 04, 10:04 AM
m. w. smith
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:23:35 GMT, Donal Fagan
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:45:21 +0100, "m. w. smith"
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:25:03 GMT, Donal Fagan
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:08:21 -0600, "Pat"
wrote:

http://www.snopes.com/medical/doctor/atkins.asp

Claim: Dr. Robert Atkins, proponent of the low
carbohydrate diet, died of a heart attack.

Status: Undetermined.

Not according to his doctor. The "undetermined"
comes from rumors. let's let the man rest in
peace.

The Atkins camp made a few claims that don't make
much sense to me. If you disagree, e-mail Snopes
and complain.


Which claims don't make much sense to you?


Don't waste my time, Martin.


Well, don't say things you don't mean Donal. If the Atkins camp made
claims that didn't make sense to you, I'm sure I could explain them
adequately, Matt's difficulty notwithstanding.

martin

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If you are a US citizen, please use your constitutional right to vote,
because we badly need a new president.
  #25  
Old February 22nd 04, 10:08 AM
m. w. smith
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:25:19 GMT, MJuric wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:23:35 GMT, Donal Fagan
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:45:21 +0100, "m. w. smith"
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:25:03 GMT, Donal Fagan
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:08:21 -0600, "Pat"
wrote:

http://www.snopes.com/medical/doctor/atkins.asp

Claim: Dr. Robert Atkins, proponent of the low
carbohydrate diet, died of a heart attack.

Status: Undetermined.

Not according to his doctor. The "undetermined"
comes from rumors. let's let the man rest in
peace.

The Atkins camp made a few claims that don't make
much sense to me. If you disagree, e-mail Snopes
and complain.

Which claims don't make much sense to you?


Don't waste my time, Martin.


Donal Fagan AIA

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He is sensitive about that whole Atkins thing isn't he? Is it a diet
or a religion?


I think you are the one who is sensitive, Matt. When you refute my
argument re running and riding being better for losing weight than
swimming, then we can discuss your hatred of the Atkins plan. For me it is
just a plan that worked, and I believe I know how it works. Donal doesn't
really have any claims that don't make sense to him, or he would simply
list them. If it is important enough for him to post that there are claims
that don't make sense to him, then it doesn't make sense for him to say it
is a waste of time to list those claims.

martin

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If you are a US citizen, please use your constitutional right to vote,
because we badly need a new president.
  #26  
Old February 22nd 04, 10:19 AM
m. w. smith
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:28:05 GMT, Michael Sollner
wrote:
Now that I have posted political opinion on a non-political group in a
thread that is not labeled "OT," I will again ask Martin to not
continually try to stir up political passion in a swimming group.


I didn't. This thread is about the Atkins diet not politics. It has been
alleged by implication that since Dr Atkins weighed 268 lbs when he died,
the Atkins diet is bogus and dangerous. Since exercise is a vital
component of the Atkins program, and since at least three people here,
that we know of, use the Atkins program, discussions of it are relevant.

Swimming is a sport
that I love and I saw politics cost many of my friends the opportunity to
participate in the 1980 Olympics and cost many athletes from many
countries
the opportunity to participate in both the 1980 and 1984 Olympics.
Politics
will unfortunately always find it's way into sports, but I wish we could
keep it out of this group.


Too bad. Politics and sports are not separate. Why didn't your friends go
to the Olympics anyway? Who could have stopped them? I doubt the Carter
administration would have punished them. The present administration
certainly would punish them. They would be terrorists by George W. Bush's
definition. They could be taken to Cuba and held forever with no contact
with lawyers or family. But go ahead and vote for President Bush, if
that's how you feel.

Since you ask me not to "continually try to stir up political passion in a
swimming group," then I ask you not to post here at all.

martin

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If you are a US citizen, please use your constitutional right to vote,
because we badly need a new president.
  #27  
Old February 22nd 04, 03:23 PM
Michael Sollner
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"m. w. smith" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 04:28:05 GMT, Michael Sollner
wrote:
Now that I have posted political opinion on a non-political group in a
thread that is not labeled "OT," I will again ask Martin to not
continually try to stir up political passion in a swimming group.


I didn't. This thread is about the Atkins diet not politics. It has been
alleged by implication that since Dr Atkins weighed 268 lbs when he died,
the Atkins diet is bogus and dangerous. Since exercise is a vital
component of the Atkins program, and since at least three people here,
that we know of, use the Atkins program, discussions of it are relevant.




When you leave the politically inciteful sig file on your messages, you are
responsible for bringing politics in where it does not belong.

Take responsibility for your actions!




Swimming is a sport
that I love and I saw politics cost many of my friends the opportunity

to
participate in the 1980 Olympics and cost many athletes from many
countries
the opportunity to participate in both the 1980 and 1984 Olympics.
Politics
will unfortunately always find it's way into sports, but I wish we could
keep it out of this group.


Too bad. Politics and sports are not separate. Why didn't your friends go
to the Olympics anyway? Who could have stopped them? I doubt the Carter
administration would have punished them. The present administration
certainly would punish them. They would be terrorists by George W. Bush's
definition. They could be taken to Cuba and held forever with no contact
with lawyers or family. But go ahead and vote for President Bush, if
that's how you feel.

Since you ask me not to "continually try to stir up political passion in a
swimming group," then I ask you not to post here at all.



I seldom post, but I read. I will continue to post when I feel that I have
something to contribute, but for the most part, we have some "swimming
scholars" here, yourself included, that keep the conversation as it relates
to swimming lively and enjoyable. Your insistence on bringing politics in is
the exception to the enjoyable part.


martin

--
If you are a US citizen, please use your constitutional right to vote,
because we badly need a new president.



  #28  
Old February 22nd 04, 04:49 PM
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I want you to know, Larry, that I shared your post with some
anthropologist friends who thought it was as funny as I thought. And so
true! I sat in a musical quintet yesterday. One person spoke of her
upcoming trip to Thailand, her satisfaction that they would be having
American breakfasts, and her concern about foreign food. As an
enthusiast of all kinds of cuisines the world over, I wanted to grab my
flute and get the hell out of there. It's a good thing we don't discuss
our sexual preferences; I think we'd have the same no-sales as your
potential client.

Said Larry:

I've made this point many times. I once worked with a really great
salesman. He said that the most important thing to do in restaurant
meetings with clients was to order the same type of food that the client
ordered.

Think about it. You are a Jewish Democrat sitting down to eat with an
Evangelical fundamentalist Christian Republican. He orders a blood red
16ounce NY steak, baked potato with sour cream, fried oninon rings, and
a lemonade (he's an evangelical, after all). You order blood red prime
rib, the same baked potato and onion rings (a small salad with lots of
Thousand Island dressing is OK), and an iced tea.

You are well on your way to closing the deal.

Now let's say that you are an evangelical Republican, also, only you
ordersteamed vegetables, instruct the waiter not to drizzle any butter
over them, plus a green salad with no dressing but with a lemon wedge.
And an espresso coffee, with no cream or sugar.

You spend the meal looking suspiciously at each other's food and each
other;there is continuous tension, and there is no deal.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~

Sadly, because I am a scoffer of any food with the word *instant*
appended, Larry and I are doomed to limited acquaintship.

Ruth Kazez

  #29  
Old February 22nd 04, 06:51 PM
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...we have some "swimming scholars" here, yourself included,...

I would hardly refer to Martin W. Smith as a "swimming scholar."
He's merely a "swimming hobbyist" as are most of those who post in this
newsgroup. Nothing wrong with that, just that most opinions expressed
are taken with a grain of salt. Those that are credentialed in the
"science" of swimming and related sports physiology and/or
kinesthesiology probably should be taken more seriously.

Steve Curtis

  #30  
Old February 23rd 04, 12:52 AM
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Don't waste my time. Martin.


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