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Proposed code is published today. You can read it at
www.snh.org.uk/soac. For those NOT in Scotland - read it and weep! druidh |
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druidh wrote:
Proposed code is published today. You can read it at www.snh.org.uk/soac. For those NOT in Scotland - read it and weep! When it comes to public rights of way I have to say that I think the situation in Scotland is miserable. Only 1% are declared legal by the courts and the rest are in a legal limbo. Whilst a general presumed right of access might seem better, I'd love to see all rights of ways in Scotland validated by the courts and recorded by the OS on scottish maps. Tim -- Remove the obvious to reply by email. |
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writes druidh wrote: Proposed code is published today. You can read it at www.snh.org.uk/soac. For those NOT in Scotland - read it and weep! When it comes to public rights of way I have to say that I think the situation in Scotland is miserable. Only 1% are declared legal by the courts and the rest are in a legal limbo. Whilst a general presumed right of access might seem better, I'd love to see all rights of ways in Scotland validated by the courts and recorded by the OS on scottish maps. Why? Bernard Hill Selkirk, Scotland |
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![]() "druidh" wrote in message om... Proposed code is published today. You can read it at www.snh.org.uk/soac. For those NOT in Scotland - read it and weep! Why weep? Haven't read the proposals yet! But what's the difference in the legistlation regarding those living in Scotland and visitors? Confused :-( CB -- Craven Birds Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks. http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/ http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds |
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"Tim Downie" wrote in message
... druidh wrote: Proposed code is published today. You can read it at www.snh.org.uk/soac. For those NOT in Scotland - read it and weep! When it comes to public rights of way I have to say that I think the situation in Scotland is miserable. Only 1% are declared legal by the courts and the rest are in a legal limbo. Whilst a general presumed right of access might seem better, I'd love to see all rights of ways in Scotland validated by the courts and recorded by the OS on scottish maps. The version of the Scottish Outdoor Access Code published today represents the final stage of the process to enshrine the right of access to almost all land in Scotland. This is considerably better than having these rights restricted to narrow rights of way which, in a Scottish context are almost pointless. For anyone who hasn't been paying attention, the original proposals for the new law were published by the Scottish Executive during the momentous last week of February 2001. (I won't bring back the pain by reminding you all what else was momentous about that and the following weeks.) The original proposals were pretty bad, and a huge response from the public to the consultation, allied to the GOMLs shooting themselves in the foot, led to a much improved draft which was finally passed into law by parliament, almost a year ago today. The final stage before the access rights contained in the bill come into force is tthe formulation of the Scottish Outdoor Access Code by SNH. The new version will be submitted to the Scottish Executive who can accept, reject or amend it, following which it will be debated in parliament and finally passed. If everything goes well, the new law could finally be in force by this summer. (Did anyone else notice that this week the GOMLs union, the Scottish Landowners' Federation, decided to rename itself the pithy "Scottish Rural P roperty and Business Association Ltd". One member in favour of the change was Patrick Gordon-Duff-Pennington who is quoted as saying "A long name has never troubled me." ) -- Duncan Gray homepage - www.duncolm.co.uk also www.mountaineering-scotland.org.uk The Mountaineering Council of Scotland |
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"Craven Birds" wrote in message
... "druidh" wrote in message om... Proposed code is published today. You can read it at www.snh.org.uk/soac. For those NOT in Scotland - read it and weep! Why weep? Haven't read the proposals yet! But what's the difference in the legistlation regarding those living in Scotland and visitors? Confused :-( They don't Why didn't we think of that earlier? ;-) -- Duncan Gray homepage - www.duncolm.co.uk also www.mountaineering-scotland.org.uk The Mountaineering Council of Scotland |
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"Tim Downie" wrote in message
... When it comes to public rights of way I have to say that I think the situation in Scotland is miserable. Only 1% are declared legal by the courts and the rest are in a legal limbo. Whilst a general presumed right of access might seem better, I'd love to see all rights of ways in Scotland validated by the courts and recorded by the OS on scottish maps. It would make considerably more sense for the OS to mark land where the de facto (and very soon de jure) Right to Roam does not apply. It would take a lot less ink. -- Bernie Get back on the wagon to reply.. |
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![]() "druidh" Proposed code is published today. You can read it at www.snh.org.uk/soac. For those NOT in Scotland - read it and weep! I've had a swift look through, and I can't help feeling negative towards this. There's a lot of woolly definitions, old (unused) laws and what exactly do they mean by "duty of care", when the first (has there been one?) trial involving this ludicrous concept goes to court it will prove very interesting indeed. I'll use common sense and take care of myself, I don't drop litter or frighten animals, I close gates and only climb fences at the posts when I've no alternative. Landowners owe me nothing except access, they owe the wider world a responsibility to be a decent custodian of the countryside. I know, in a perfect world eh? :-) KRO |
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![]() "Duncan Gray" wrote in message The version of the Scottish Outdoor Access Code published today represents the final stage of the process to enshrine the right of access to almost all land in Scotland. This is considerably better than having these rights restricted to narrow rights of way which, in a Scottish context are almost pointless. Duncan, I've read your post since posting my own reply (the negative one!) can you explain what the original problem was that required the Access Code in the first place? I was under the impression that, under the Law, access was freely available? The problems I've encountered have all been about vehicle access which I've just accepted as I can (semi) understand that point. But I've not had anyone say, "You can't go there". I'm not referring to the foot-and-mouth situation as that was unique. The code is not published yet, so what problems can be expected right now in Scotland regarding access? A genuine question as I'm not sure I've got the facts of this debate. KRO |
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"Tim Downie" wrote in
: druidh wrote: Proposed code is published today. You can read it at www.snh.org.uk/soac. For those NOT in Scotland - read it and weep! When it comes to public rights of way I have to say that I think the situation in Scotland is miserable. Only 1% are declared legal by the courts and the rest are in a legal limbo. Whilst a general presumed right of access might seem better, I'd love to see all rights of ways in Scotland validated by the courts and recorded by the OS on scottish maps. I wouldn't. I am worried it would lead to erosion. Even on some very popular hills there are so many ways to the top that the pressure is evened out. -- Adrian |
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